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[View] 		Cocc-1Vegetable Seller2At any time, you can turn 1 vegetable in your supply or one that you do not have into 3 food. For each vegetable you did not have, you must return one at the start of the scoring or take 1 begging card. You cannot discard this Occupation.0uwe[5 Comments]
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2016-06-20 01:30:27
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Vegetable Seller2 (occ-1+)
At any time, you can turn 1 vegetable in your supply or one that you do not have into 3 food. For each vegetable you did not have, you must return one at the start of the scoring or take 1 begging card. You cannot discard this Occupation.

[View playtest games] [View all dealt games]		 .uwe
Mar 26, 2016 10:53pm
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(Edit: Jun 18, 2016 3:07pm)
You must add text to prevent discarding this occupation for free infinite food chris
Jun 18, 2016 12:37pm
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UPDATE

added: You cannot discard this Occupation.		 chris
Jun 18, 2016 3:06pm
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I wish I had more hands, so I could give this four thumbs down.

If it's going to be in the set, this card should immediately give you a begging card for each borrowed vegetable, then you can avoid the problematic "This card may not be discarded" clause. (Especially since the card can still be turned face-down.)

I'd rather just see it replaced though.

Here's the old thread: http://play-agricola.com/Agricola/Cards/index.php?id=3026		 guy
Jun 19, 2016 5:14pm
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The new version is quite good. I won a game recently using it like an upgraded Borrower.

I "borrowed" 5 veggies early to get 15 food for my autodidact and to use Contract Builder then I used late game actions sowing veggies.

I would bet this new version is quite strong. It's way better than Borrower because not only can you borrow more food you can also just use the card for it's effect since it gives you a better conversion than a FP.		 nwoll
Jun 19, 2016 8:19pm
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It's made to be broken. The strength is fine, but phrases like "this card may not be discarded" are so problematic. What if another card forces you to discard this occ? (example: if there is another card that has discarding all your occs as a penalty condition) What about cards that nullify cards by turning them face down (Snitch, Retirement, Jack of All Trades, etc.)?

Speaking of Jack of All Trades, he gives you infinite food if someone else plays this card. What about cards like Engagement Gift? You can play it first round with this card. It's just begging to be abused. 		guy
Jun 20, 2016 1:30am
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