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Chris
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« on: April 14, 2010, 01:14:34 PM »

Below is how the winners rank the draft picks!

In 2,250 EIK draft 4-ERs, there are about 2,250 winners.  By just considering how THOSE winners ranked the draft picks in THOSE games, I came up with the following drafting rank: (Format is Card_Name-Average_Drafting_Position-(Number_of_games_present) )

Minors:
axe-1.2-(101), woodenhutextension-1.2-(121), housegoat-1.6-(150), clayroof-1.8-(111), swingplow-1.8-(96), landingnet-1.8-(107), sawhouse-1.8-(11), ridingplow-1.9-(104), quarry-1.9-(135), claysupports-2.0-(111), ladder-2.1-(84), fishtrap-2.2-(124), animalpen-2.3-(117), woodcart-2.3-(103), sawhorse-2.3-(93), bookshelf-2.3-(115), sleepingcorner-2.3-(89), clayhutextension-2.4-(116), moldboardplow-2.4-(79), spinney-2.4-(109), lasso-2.5-(76), claypit-2.5-(108), turnwrestplow-2.5-(101), broom-2.6-(97), punner-2.7-(125), bakingtray-2.7-(61), crookedplow-2.8-(73), fruittree-2.8-(171), privateforest-2.9-(92), graincart-3.0-(69), chickencoop-3.1-(122), villagewell-3.1-(113), goosepond-3.2-(121), writingdesk-3.2-(115), swanlake-3.2-(136), turnipfield-3.2-(145), reedpond-3.2-(120), beehive-3.3-(129), duckpond-3.4-(127), greenhouse-3.4-(106), forestpasture-3.4-(113), cornscoop-3.5-(76), ceramics-3.5-(94), minipasture-3.6-(102), simplefireplace-3.6-(118), planterbox-3.7-(126), stonecart-3.7-(96), lettucepatch-3.7-(117), oxteam-3.7-(117), mansion-3.7-(89), canoe-3.9-(94), stonehouseextension-3.9-(91), stonetongs-3.9-(89), builderstrowel-3.9-(90), carppond-4.0-(129), cookingcorner-4.0-(98), cookinghearth-4.0-(62), acreage-4.0-(74), sackcart-4.1-(85), horse-4.1-(100), dovecote-4.1-(105), granary-4.2-(102), brushwoodroof-4.2-(72), flagon-4.2-(100), milkingstool-4.3-(99), loom-4.4-(107), claypath-4.4-(120), pelts-4.4-(109), fishingrod-4.4-(80), wildlifereserve-4.4-(96), clogs-4.4-(135), raft-4.5-(86), beanfield-4.5-(102), woodencrane-4.5-(72), bakersoven-4.5-(86), millstone-4.6-(58), yoke-4.6-(107), field-4.6-(93), claydeposit-4.6-(93), lumber-4.7-(107), strawthatchedroof-4.7-(64), harrow-4.8-(62), halftimberedhouse-4.8-(101), animalyard-4.8-(90), woodenstrongbox-4.8-(106), sawmill-4.8-(78), reedexchange-4.8-(88), woodenpath-4.8-(110), shepherdscrook-4.9-(103), spices-4.9-(74), herbgarden-4.9-(96), guest-5.0-(83), rake-5.1-(113), potatodibber-5.1-(82), stoneexchange-5.1-(72), basket-5.1-(63), strawberrypatch-5.1-(111), manger-5.2-(71), bakehouse-5.2-(61), bakerskitchen-5.2-(79), gypsysrock-5.2-(84), schnapsdistillery-5.3-(60), flail-5.3-(63), stable-5.3-(76), outhouse-5.4-(68), cornsheaf-5.4-(96), buildingmaterial-5.4-(92), drinkingtrough-5.5-(74), plane-5.6-(73), butterchurn-5.6-(58), handmill-5.6-(43), pavedroad-5.6-(65), madonnastatue-5.7-(100), manure-5.7-(65), liquidmanure-5.7-(80), marketstall-5.7-(69), slaughterhouse-5.7-(61), breadpaddle-5.7-(43), boarbreeding-5.8-(76), spindle-5.8-(55), copse-5.9-(56), woodfiredoven-5.9-(65), threshingboard-5.9-(61), feedpellets-5.9-(84), spitroast-5.9-(68), helpfulneighbors-5.9-(74), cornstorehouse-5.9-(50), shepherdspipe-6.0-(61), animalfeed-6.0-(58), tavern-6.0-(70), cattlemarket-6.0-(64), milkingshed-6.2-(56), brewery-6.2-(60), weeklymarket-6.3-(49), clapper-6.3-(52), alms-6.3-(50), watermill-6.5-(33), windmill-6.6-(53), holidayhouse-6.8-(26)

Occuaptions:
fieldwatchman-1.2-(82), headofthefamily-1.2-(111), braggart-1.2-(103), fieldwarden-1.8-(84), farmsteward-1.8-(95), storehousekeeper-1.8-(110), charcoalburner-1.8-(116), berrypicker-1.8-(92), hutbuilder-1.9-(104), pieceworker-2.0-(84), clayworker-2.1-(97), manufacturer-2.1-(77), grocer-2.1-(123), woodcutter-2.1-(95), brushwoodcollector-2.3-(82), thatcher-2.3-(85), marketwomen-2.3-(100), perpetualstudent-2.4-(87), seasonalworker-2.5-(77), mushroomcollector-2.5-(79), woodcarver-2.5-(86), netfisherman-2.5-(102), educator-2.6-(128), bricklayer-2.6-(79), reedcollector-2.6-(88), animaldealer-2.6-(76), guildmaster-2.7-(78), wellbuilder-2.7-(84), animalbreeder-2.7-(84), hedgekeeper-2.7-(87), carpenter-2.7-(72), patron-2.8-(102), puppeteer-2.8-(96), greengrocer-2.9-(53), sheepfarmer-2.9-(88), claymixer-2.9-(68), acrobat-2.9-(71), stonecutter-3.0-(89), plowmaker-3.0-(68), fenceoverseer-3.0-(102), plowman-3.1-(67), baker-3.2-(80), resourceseller-3.2-(73), reeve-3.2-(118), fencedeliveryman-3.3-(83), conservator-3.3-(73), landagent-3.4-(87), businessman-3.4-(68), mason-3.4-(113), undergardener-3.4-(78), constable-3.5-(99), scholar-3.6-(92), villageelder-3.6-(116), travelingsalesman-3.6-(81), clayplasterer-3.6-(70), churchwarden-3.7-(130), magician-3.7-(72), schnapsdistiller-3.7-(77), woodcollector-3.7-(91), housesteward-3.7-(102), marketcrier-3.7-(65), reedbuyer-3.7-(55), woodbuyer-3.8-(76), plowdriver-3.8-(132), seedseller-3.8-(70), dancer-3.8-(72), hobbyfarmer-3.8-(95), claydeliveryman-3.9-(93), wooddeliveryman-3.9-(88), socialclimber-4.0-(117), serf-4.0-(61), sycophant-4.0-(60), gardener-4.0-(71), adoptiveparents-4.1-(108), stockman-4.1-(74), clayhutbuilder-4.1-(99), merchant-4.2-(56), stonebuyer-4.2-(70), farmer-4.2-(74), streetmusician-4.2-(59), layabout-4.2-(84), wooddistributor-4.3-(99), masterforester-4.3-(85), renovator-4.3-(83), conjurer-4.3-(44), storyteller-4.3-(79), countryman-4.4-(47), fisherman-4.4-(65), stonecarrier-4.4-(72), juggler-4.4-(50), fencebuilder-4.5-(76), manservant-4.6-(100), basketmaker-4.7-(89), clayseller-4.7-(76), chief-4.7-(97), chiefsdaughter-4.7-(125), hidefarmer-4.7-(91), storehouseclerk-4.8-(71), yeomanfarmer-4.8-(81), framebuilder-4.9-(79), foreman-4.9-(98), stonecarver-4.9-(80), lordofthemanor-4.9-(98), groom-5.0-(71), tinsmith-5.0-(79), cook-5.1-(53), cowherd-5.1-(78), fencer-5.2-(70), cattlebreeder-5.2-(85), stablehand-5.2-(59), milkinghand-5.3-(91), woodenhutbuilder-5.3-(75), watercarrier-5.3-(84), meatseller-5.3-(57), cattlewhisperer-5.3-(45), tutor-5.3-(65), mastershepherd-5.3-(76), masterbuilder-5.4-(74), rancher-5.4-(58), slaughterman-5.4-(63), fieldsman-5.4-(66), tenantfarmer-5.4-(81), stonebreaker-5.5-(67), claydigger-5.5-(47), swineherd-5.6-(80), quarryman-5.6-(71), potter-5.6-(60), maid-5.6-(67), harvesthelper-5.6-(61), forester-5.7-(47), shepherdboy-5.7-(53), academic-5.7-(50), animaltamer-5.7-(65), pastor-5.7-(75), cornprofiteer-5.7-(57), organicfarmer-5.7-(77), weaver-5.8-(48), cabinetmaker-5.8-(67), masterbrewer-5.8-(46), animalhandler-5.8-(58), mendicant-5.8-(75), clayfirer-5.8-(68), tanner-5.9-(72), breadseller-6.0-(50), brushmaker-6.0-(45), pigbreeder-6.0-(60), sheepwhisperer-6.0-(49), animaltrainer-6.1-(34), masterbaker-6.1-(44), animalkeeper-6.1-(52), outrider-6.1-(61), stablemaster-6.1-(51), dockworker-6.2-(60), veterinarian-6.2-(33), smallholder-6.3-(39), pigcatcher-6.3-(27), turner-6.3-(42), shepherd-6.3-(48), pigwhisperer-6.4-(45), butcher-6.4-(41), basinmaker-6.5-(46), estatemanager-6.5-(54), midwife-6.7-(20), fieldworker-6.7-(23)
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« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2010, 01:15:00 PM »

Alphabetical

Occupations:
academic-5.7-(50), acrobat-2.9-(71), adoptiveparents-4.1-(108), animalbreeder-2.7-(84), animaldealer-2.6-(76), animalhandler-5.8-(58), animalkeeper-6.1-(52), animaltamer-5.7-(65), animaltrainer-6.1-(34), baker-3.2-(80), basinmaker-6.5-(46), basketmaker-4.7-(89), berrypicker-1.8-(92), braggart-1.2-(103), breadseller-6.0-(50), bricklayer-2.6-(79), brushmaker-6.0-(45), brushwoodcollector-2.3-(82), businessman-3.4-(68), butcher-6.4-(41), cabinetmaker-5.8-(67), carpenter-2.7-(72), cattlebreeder-5.2-(85), cattlewhisperer-5.3-(45), charcoalburner-1.8-(116), chief-4.7-(97), chiefsdaughter-4.7-(125), churchwarden-3.7-(130), claydeliveryman-3.9-(93), claydigger-5.5-(47), clayfirer-5.8-(68), clayhutbuilder-4.1-(99), claymixer-2.9-(68), clayplasterer-3.6-(70), clayseller-4.7-(76), clayworker-2.1-(97), conjurer-4.3-(44), conservator-3.3-(73), constable-3.5-(99), cook-5.1-(53), cornprofiteer-5.7-(57), countryman-4.4-(47), cowherd-5.1-(78), dancer-3.8-(72), dockworker-6.2-(60), educator-2.6-(128), estatemanager-6.5-(54), farmer-4.2-(74), farmsteward-1.8-(95), fencebuilder-4.5-(76), fencedeliveryman-3.3-(83), fenceoverseer-3.0-(102), fencer-5.2-(70), fieldsman-5.4-(66), fieldwarden-1.8-(84), fieldwatchman-1.2-(82), fieldworker-6.7-(23), fisherman-4.4-(65), foreman-4.9-(98), forester-5.7-(47), framebuilder-4.9-(79), gardener-4.0-(71), greengrocer-2.9-(53), grocer-2.1-(123), groom-5.0-(71), guildmaster-2.7-(78), harvesthelper-5.6-(61), headofthefamily-1.2-(111), hedgekeeper-2.7-(87), hidefarmer-4.7-(91), hobbyfarmer-3.8-(95), housesteward-3.7-(102), hutbuilder-1.9-(104), juggler-4.4-(50), landagent-3.4-(87), layabout-4.2-(84), lordofthemanor-4.9-(98), magician-3.7-(72), maid-5.6-(67), manservant-4.6-(100), manufacturer-2.1-(77), marketcrier-3.7-(65), marketwomen-2.3-(100), mason-3.4-(113), masterbaker-6.1-(44), masterbrewer-5.8-(46), masterbuilder-5.4-(74), masterforester-4.3-(85), mastershepherd-5.3-(76), meatseller-5.3-(57), mendicant-5.8-(75), merchant-4.2-(56), midwife-6.7-(20), milkinghand-5.3-(91), mushroomcollector-2.5-(79), netfisherman-2.5-(102), organicfarmer-5.7-(77), outrider-6.1-(61), pastor-5.7-(75), patron-2.8-(102), perpetualstudent-2.4-(87), pieceworker-2.0-(84), pigbreeder-6.0-(60), pigcatcher-6.3-(27), pigwhisperer-6.4-(45), plowdriver-3.8-(132), plowmaker-3.0-(68), plowman-3.1-(67), potter-5.6-(60), puppeteer-2.8-(96), quarryman-5.6-(71), rancher-5.4-(58), reedbuyer-3.7-(55), reedcollector-2.6-(88), reeve-3.2-(118), renovator-4.3-(83), resourceseller-3.2-(73), schnapsdistiller-3.7-(77), scholar-3.6-(92), seasonalworker-2.5-(77), seedseller-3.8-(70), serf-4.0-(61), sheepfarmer-2.9-(88), sheepwhisperer-6.0-(49), shepherd-6.3-(48), shepherdboy-5.7-(53), slaughterman-5.4-(63), smallholder-6.3-(39), socialclimber-4.0-(117), stablehand-5.2-(59), stablemaster-6.1-(51), stockman-4.1-(74), stonebreaker-5.5-(67), stonebuyer-4.2-(70), stonecarrier-4.4-(72), stonecarver-4.9-(80), stonecutter-3.0-(89), storehouseclerk-4.8-(71), storehousekeeper-1.8-(110), storyteller-4.3-(79), streetmusician-4.2-(59), swineherd-5.6-(80), sycophant-4.0-(60), tanner-5.9-(72), tenantfarmer-5.4-(81), thatcher-2.3-(85), tinsmith-5.0-(79), travelingsalesman-3.6-(81), turner-6.3-(42), tutor-5.3-(65), undergardener-3.4-(78), veterinarian-6.2-(33), villageelder-3.6-(116), watercarrier-5.3-(84), weaver-5.8-(48), wellbuilder-2.7-(84), woodbuyer-3.8-(76), woodcarver-2.5-(86), woodcollector-3.7-(91), woodcutter-2.1-(95), wooddeliveryman-3.9-(88), wooddistributor-4.3-(99), woodenhutbuilder-5.3-(75), yeomanfarmer-4.8-(81)

Minors:
acreage-4.0-(74), alms-6.3-(50), animalfeed-6.0-(58), animalpen-2.3-(117), animalyard-4.8-(90), axe-1.2-(101), bakehouse-5.2-(61), bakerskitchen-5.2-(79), bakersoven-4.5-(86), bakingtray-2.7-(61), basket-5.1-(63), beanfield-4.5-(102), beehive-3.3-(129), boarbreeding-5.8-(76), bookshelf-2.3-(115), breadpaddle-5.7-(43), brewery-6.2-(60), broom-2.6-(97), brushwoodroof-4.2-(72), builderstrowel-3.9-(90), buildingmaterial-5.4-(92), butterchurn-5.6-(58), canoe-3.9-(94), carppond-4.0-(129), cattlemarket-6.0-(64), ceramics-3.5-(94), chickencoop-3.1-(122), clapper-6.3-(52), claydeposit-4.6-(93), clayhutextension-2.4-(116), claypath-4.4-(120), claypit-2.5-(108), clayroof-1.8-(111), claysupports-2.0-(111), clogs-4.4-(135), cookingcorner-4.0-(98), cookinghearth-4.0-(62), copse-5.9-(56), cornscoop-3.5-(76), cornsheaf-5.4-(96), cornstorehouse-5.9-(50), crookedplow-2.8-(73), dovecote-4.1-(105), drinkingtrough-5.5-(74), duckpond-3.4-(127), feedpellets-5.9-(84), field-4.6-(93), fishingrod-4.4-(80), fishtrap-2.2-(124), flagon-4.2-(100), flail-5.3-(63), forestpasture-3.4-(113), fruittree-2.8-(171), goosepond-3.2-(121), graincart-3.0-(69), granary-4.2-(102), greenhouse-3.4-(106), guest-5.0-(83), gypsysrock-5.2-(84), halftimberedhouse-4.8-(101), handmill-5.6-(43), harrow-4.8-(62), helpfulneighbors-5.9-(74), herbgarden-4.9-(96), holidayhouse-6.8-(26), horse-4.1-(100), housegoat-1.6-(150), ladder-2.1-(84), landingnet-1.8-(107), lasso-2.5-(76), lettucepatch-3.7-(117), liquidmanure-5.7-(80), loom-4.4-(107), lumber-4.7-(107), madonnastatue-5.7-(100), manger-5.2-(71), mansion-3.7-(89), manure-5.7-(65), marketstall-5.7-(69), milkingshed-6.2-(56), milkingstool-4.3-(99), millstone-4.6-(58), minipasture-3.6-(102), moldboardplow-2.4-(79), outhouse-5.4-(68), oxteam-3.7-(117), pavedroad-5.6-(65), pelts-4.4-(109), plane-5.6-(73), planterbox-3.7-(126), potatodibber-5.1-(82), privateforest-2.9-(92), punner-2.7-(125), quarry-1.9-(135), raft-4.5-(86), rake-5.1-(113), reedexchange-4.8-(88), reedpond-3.2-(120), ridingplow-1.9-(104), sackcart-4.1-(85), sawhorse-2.3-(93), sawhouse-1.8-(11), sawmill-4.8-(78), schnapsdistillery-5.3-(60), shepherdscrook-4.9-(103), shepherdspipe-6.0-(61), simplefireplace-3.6-(118), slaughterhouse-5.7-(61), sleepingcorner-2.3-(89), spices-4.9-(74), spindle-5.8-(55), spinney-2.4-(109), spitroast-5.9-(68), stable-5.3-(76), stonecart-3.7-(96), stoneexchange-5.1-(72), stonehouseextension-3.9-(91), stonetongs-3.9-(89), strawberrypatch-5.1-(111), strawthatchedroof-4.7-(64), swanlake-3.2-(136), swingplow-1.8-(96), tavern-6.0-(70), threshingboard-5.9-(61), turnipfield-3.2-(145), turnwrestplow-2.5-(101), villagewell-3.1-(113), watermill-6.5-(33), weeklymarket-6.3-(49), wildlifereserve-4.4-(96), windmill-6.6-(53), woodcart-2.3-(103), woodencrane-4.5-(72), woodenhutextension-1.2-(121), woodenpath-4.8-(110), woodenstrongbox-4.8-(106), woodfiredoven-5.9-(65), writingdesk-3.2-(115), yoke-4.6-(107)
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« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2010, 10:31:58 AM »

Interesting statistic!
I found a Sawhouse and a Sawhorse (minors) in the statistic. I think they both belong to the same card: Sawhorse.
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« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2010, 10:54:37 AM »

Yea, you are right.  For a while, Sawhorse was misspelled as Sawhouse.  That's why they both show up.  So there should only be one Sawhorse with the draft number being the average of the two.
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« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2010, 03:28:52 PM »

just a cursory look at those, net fisherman over animal breeder?! that must be a joke.
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« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2010, 04:21:05 PM »

I agree Andrew, but I think Educator's ranking is even more surprising.
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« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2010, 08:50:02 AM »

I'm not too surprised at educator. A lot of less experienced players don't get how to use him properly or how powerful he is. Same with some of the other cards. Braggart, Head of Family and Field Watchman are obviously good, and you *will* get people giving you crap if you pass them.
I recently won a game where I got educator 3rd pick. I looked back at the game log and the picks ahead of it were Animal Breeder and Patron.
Now, perhaps many of you would not have picked either of those ahead of Educator. But my point is that maybe the less experienced players skew the stats by not picking powerful cards that are tricky to use.
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« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2010, 10:27:36 AM »

I also think educator is such a powerful card mostly in an experienced player's hand. As we get more and more experienced, we appreciate more and more this card. During my transformation to an experienced player, it moved from the status of a "good card" (but not near top 10) to close to number 1.

Still I can't understand it being so low on the picking list.
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« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2010, 11:33:38 AM »

Chris do you think it would be possibly to take all the players who have over 50 games played let's say and have a 35% win rate and see how they draft.
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« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2010, 04:32:50 PM »

I think the carpenter and clay plasterer are overrated.
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